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  • Genes of the Dead
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    Halloween (2018)

    So by now I'm sure most of us have heard that John Carpenter is teaming up with Danny McBride and Blumhouse Pictures to produce Halloween: the remakequelboot that ignores every single Halloween film aside from the original, and even ignores that to some small extent in terms of re-writing how the thing ended.

    Jamie Lee Curtis returns as yet another version of Laurie Strode -- because they just can't seem to settle on a single continuity for the poor woman -- and joining her this time around will be Judy Greer as Karen Strode and Andi Matichak as Allyson Strode, leaving both Jamie Lloyd and John Tate in the clutches of the vile Beast of Retcon. Carpenter is acting as an adviser/producer, and may very well be composing the soundtrack for the film. Danny McBride has revealed that the film is going to act as a direct sequel to the original, but that the final moments of the original film might be in some way altered or retconned.

    My biggest question is this: will Michael and Laurie still be siblings? They've made it very clear that this film is going to ignore the sequels, and the sibling storyline wasn't introduced until Halloween 2. If they aren't siblings, then it seems awfully weird that Michael has returned to torment the Strode family 40 years later.

    How are folks feeling about this film in general? I'm optimistic, but it's hard not to be after the dumpster fire that was Zombie's Halloween II.


  • DevonteHuntley
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    Originally posted by Westin View Post
    How old are you now and do you plan on going back to college? I don't think one necessarily needs a degree to master skills like mass communication and social media.
    I am twenty-four now. I don't necessarily need a degree, but it surely would help achieve my goal better and quicker. At the rate I am now, I'd have to wait.
    Originally posted by Westin View Post
    Oren Peli was a computer software engineer and he decided to make a movie, Paranormal Activity. He shot the movie with a home video camera. The movie cost him only $15,000 and it earned nearly $108 million at the U.S. box office.
    Yeah, it's amazing what that guy was able to do. Too bad the studios got involved and butchered it and then made ridiculous prequels with higher budgets and typical standard horror nonsense from the modern era. This is why studios need to stay out of independent projects. But like I said, I have no degree, have no published work, and live in Buffalo. Even the best authors out there have been rejected so imagine what struggle I'm gonna be dealing with.
    Originally posted by Westin View Post
    I think our generation is lucky. For example, it's far easier to make a short film right now and have the film reach hundreds of thousands of people than in the past. We have YouTube, Facebook, Instagram. The possibilities are endless --I think you just have to believe in yourself, be persistent, and never give up.
    I can try, but I'm not gonna be getting my hopes up in case it's all gonna be a waste of time in the end. I'm basically gonna be waving the ride and wait for luck to pop up I guess.
    Originally posted by Westin View Post
    Have you thought of running a blog and writing movie reviews?
    I've written movie reviews years ago, but it was very few and short and this was before wanting to become an author and a screenplay writer. I did them on IMDb. I do not want to really do that. I'm not a critic and frankly, most readers would not like what I have to say about these movies.

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  • Bearded Hoody
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    I'm just returning from seeing it, finally, and I'm very warm on it. Glad I was able to see it in the theater 5 years after seeing the rerelease of the original.

    Happy times.

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  • Darth Reaper
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    Originally posted by Westin View Post
    Have you guys ever written a script, Darth Reaper and Devonte Huntley?

    If not, you should study the basics of screenwriting and write your own film scripts. It's the only way to get those ideas turned into actual movies. I hear it's a very difficult field, but the good news is that you don't have to go to film school to become a screenwriter (especially nowadays); there are many resources you can find online (classes on YouTube), used books you can order from Amazon, scripts of your favorite movies that you can use as a template, and virtually anything you need to perfect your art. In other words, if you have a dream, just don't sit there.
    Nope. I've never written a script before. Honestly, if I was going to try my hand at something like that I would love to work with someone who has experience with that sort of thing and shares my interests. I think that would be most helpful for me. Having someone to actually take me through the process would probably be more educational for me than just trying to read a book and do it all by myself.

    As for trying to do it for a living, I'm a bit conflicted over it. The thought of taking an idea of mine and turning it into something real appeals to me, but I'm not sure I'm cut out for dealing with the Hollywood system. Just for starters, I'd want perhaps more control over my stories than I could reasonably hope to get from Hollywood.

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  • Westin
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    Originally posted by DevonteHuntley View Post

    I tried Amazon Studios when it came to my fan stuff and got rejected. I could see why considering they were too long or not formatted right or not well written though the stories were really interesting. A few months ago Amazon apparently stated they were gonna stop accepting screenplays and it seemed permanent. Not sure how it is now. But it's tough. I went to college for creative writing and flunked out without a degree and haven't been back to school since. Perhaps if I had a degree it would make this screenwriting connection thing easier and if I was living in Los Angeles. I have found one site that could accept submissions that didn't cost any money. They have a deadline by the 15th of this month for submissions.
    How old are you now and do you plan on going back to college? I don't think one necessarily needs a degree to master skills like mass communication and social media. Oren Peli was a computer software engineer and he decided to make a movie, Paranormal Activity. He shot the movie with a home video camera. The movie cost him only $15,000 and it earned nearly $108 million at the U.S. box office. I think the key to success (and this applies to everyone, not only filmmakers) is intent, motivation, and discipline. I know a lot of people with all sorts of degrees (especially non-technical degrees) who do not work in their chosen fields (the arts and the humanities) or are underemployed. I think our generation is lucky. For example, it's far easier to make a short film right now and have the film reach hundreds of thousands of people than in the past. We have YouTube, Facebook, Instagram. The possibilities are endless --I think you just have to believe in yourself, be persistent, and never give up.

    Have you thought of running a blog and writing movie reviews?

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  • DevonteHuntley
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    Originally posted by Westin View Post
    Curtis openly admitted to Variety magazine that H20 was just a money gig for her. It started with good intentions, she said, but eventually she did the movie just for the money, she admitted. Thus, I very much doubt that she has watched H4-H6 or has any interest in watching them. She didn't want to be in "Resurrection," either. She only accepted being in "Resurrection" because there was a clause stating that writers cannot kill Michael Myers and that H20 had to have a sequel of some sort. Back then, she vehemently opposed reprising her role as Laurie Strode in any Halloween movie and that's why her character got killed. While it's true that Laurie Strode was Curtis's first role in a movie and that the role helped her career, I don't really think that she cares about the franchise as a whole.
    It just does to show how selfish she is, but she's apparently willing to come back as Laurie for the money and if she's contracted to do so. She did H:R because she wanted closure for her character if Michael was still going to be around and she was contracted to do at least thirty seconds of filming. Thirty seconds? That's like Gina Phillips' role at the end of Jeepers Creepers 3 and that was just abrupt and weak. I'm glad the writers talked her into doing more than what, but they certainly could have executed it better. Laurie needing to unmask Michael to be sure it's him and this dude was literally trying to KILL you? Does it freaking matter if it was him or not?
    Originally posted by Westin View Post
    Well, don't quote me on this, but if memory doesn't fail me... someone who used to post here said that it was Curtis who opposed the scene. Although she was not a producer, I think she had some creative control over the movie.
    She certainly had creative control over the ending with Michael's death, but a one scene reference to movies she haven't even seen? How was that gonna hurt the movie in any way? Seems hard to swallow there. I just know they had trouble figuring out why Laurie left Jamie in Haddonfield and took John with her so they decided to just retcon the whole thing. That would cancel out Jamie's rumored distaste for that scene. It just sucks they really couldn't get around that like it's not so freaking hard. Shows how dumb and mind limited these so-called professionals really are.
    Originally posted by Westin View Post
    Have you guys ever written a script, Darth Reaper and Devonte Huntley?
    I'm surprised you're asking me this given the posts I've made on this thread and Child's Play where I state I wrote screenplays. I've written many. My first screenplay in 2009 which was a Halloween sequel to Part 6. I was fifteen and the script unfortunately was lackluster at best. I re-did it, but that copy is long lost forever. I wrote my second screenplay in 2015 which was my second Halloween one which connected the first eight movies minus H3. Some time later I wrote a Child's Play screenplay which is a direct sequel to Curse of Chucky. This was in 2016. Both the second Halloween script and Child's Play one was 500 pages and this is with the number font being small so the regular 12 level one might bump those pages up to like 700+. I had no idea how many pages a screenplay is suppose to have and when I did, I found it difficult to construct a story that's only like 90-120 pages with a 12 font on top of it like what? In 2016 as well I started to write a sequel to my Halloween story as well as a Final Destination story, but I got a few pages into each and stopped and neither story has been touched since. In 2017 I wrote a Scream 5 screenplay which was 240+ pages, much shorter than my previous two but still too long. I ended up having to break that up in two parts so you have a Scream 5 and 6. There was suppose to be a sequel to I guess Scream 6 (which would have been the original 6) but when I get done tweaking the second half, I'm gonna wrap the storyline up there. I have yet to do that since I began focusing on my original screenplays. I did the same sort of breaking apart when I wrote a new Chucky sequel following Cult of Chucky and the thing was too long so I split that up into two stories. The whole thing was "Son of Chucky" but the first part was still titled as that but the second half became "Ghost of Chucky". I talk about this in the Child's Play thread. I started that in the end of 2017 and it carried over into 2018. This year I started crafting my original horror series cleverly using material from my previous scripts. My first screenplay became an original thing with tweaks. The sequel is entirely lifted from a storyline in my second Halloween script, the new Part 1 to both those entries will be lifted from a short-story I wrote in middle school, and Part 4 and 5 will be recycled out of what is completely out of my unfinished Halloween and Final Destination scripts. As far as using my FD story, I'm still indifferent about because I do like the story I crafted for that series as it's fresh and different and want the next movie to have a story like that. Not sure I want to rob a good sequel idea to connect it to be part of my original series, but we'll see. But there is my journey. Then there's the new Halloween 9 script I started this year and got thirty pages in which will lift material from my second Halloween script I also need to get back on shortly.

    As we stand I have nine completed screenplays, three unfinished and one near completion. I'm also planning to write a Freddy Vs. Jason 2, a Halloweentown 5, and a possible When a Stranger Calls 3 (sequel to the 1979 movie and it's 1993 sequel).
    Originally posted by Westin View Post
    If not, you should study the basics of screenwriting and write your own film scripts. It's the only way to get those ideas turned into actual movies. I hear it's a very difficult field, but the good news is that you don't have to go to film school to become a screenwriter (especially nowadays); there are many resources you can find online (classes on YouTube), used books you can order from Amazon, scripts of your favorite movies that you can use as a template, and virtually anything you need to perfect your art. In other words, if you have a dream, just don't sit there.
    I tried Amazon Studios when it came to my fan stuff and got rejected. I could see why considering they were too long or not formatted right or not well written though the stories were really interesting. A few months ago Amazon apparently stated they were gonna stop accepting screenplays and it seemed permanent. Not sure how it is now. But it's tough. I went to college for creative writing and flunked out without a degree and haven't been back to school since. Perhaps if I had a degree it would make this screenwriting connection thing easier and if I was living in Los Angeles. I have found one site that could accept submissions that didn't cost any money. They have a deadline by the 15th of this month for submissions.

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  • Westin
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    Have you guys ever written a script, Darth Reaper and Devonte Huntley?

    If not, you should study the basics of screenwriting and write your own film scripts. It's the only way to get those ideas turned into actual movies. I hear it's a very difficult field, but the good news is that you don't have to go to film school to become a screenwriter (especially nowadays); there are many resources you can find online (classes on YouTube), used books you can order from Amazon, scripts of your favorite movies that you can use as a template, and virtually anything you need to perfect your art. In other words, if you have a dream, just don't sit there.

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  • Darth Reaper
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    There are a couple of ideas that I'd like to explore with the right help.

    One idea is to say that Michael did die at the end of Halloween 2, but his evil spirit continues to plague Haddonfield. Every year, on Halloween, he manifests himself in a physical form and stalks the town again. I'd like to explore how Michael's reign of terror has affected the town and its people. I'd have the main characters serve as a kind of microcosm of what's happening in the town. How they deal with the situation would represent how most people in the town deal with it. Nobody really knows what's going on, though different people have different theories. All they really know is that for 40 years since Michael Myers' death, people have continued to die in Haddonfield, on Halloween, in a manner that's consistent with Michael's MO. This not knowing makes things even more difficult, because without knowing what's going on, nobody really knows what to do about it.

    The second idea would be a bit simpler. It would be Halloween 2018, but instead of focusing on Laurie Strode and her family, I would have Michael escape from custody after 40 years, return to Haddonfield, and pick a new group of people to terrorize. Laurie Strode could be mentioned in this movie. It could be said that she struggled with the aftermath of Michael's attack, but ultimately moved away from Haddonfield and went on with her life. Michael doesn't really care about her in this story. He's more interested in finding new prey to hunt.

    A third possible idea would be to do a sequel to Halloween: Resurrection and focus on a character, or group of characters, who decide to deal with Halloween by packing up and leaving town for a few days and not coming back until after Halloween has come and gone. Little do they know that they've caught Michael's eye and now he's following them to their destination, where a new killing spree will commence.

    Those are my thoughts, for now.

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  • Westin
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    Originally posted by DevonteHuntley View Post
    Jamie Lee haven't even seen those movies when H20 rolled around. I doubt she still has seen them since. She has no room to want to discard them considering they helped build this franchise anyway and helped further and rejuvenate her career? With a big amount of money she'll likely come back or we can recast with a look-alike. John and Laurie need another onscreen moment and this is a FAMILY REUNION after all.
    Curtis openly admitted to Variety magazine that H20 was just a money gig for her. It started with good intentions, she said, but eventually she did the movie just for the money, she admitted. Thus, I very much doubt that she has watched H4-H6 or has any interest in watching them. She didn't want to be in "Resurrection," either. She only accepted being in "Resurrection" because there was a clause stating that writers cannot kill Michael Myers and that H20 had to have a sequel of some sort. Back then, she vehemently opposed reprising her role as Laurie Strode in any Halloween movie and that's why her character got killed. While it's true that Laurie Strode was Curtis's first role in a movie and that the role helped her career, I don't really think that she cares about the franchise as a whole.


    Originally posted by DevonteHuntley View Post

    That reference to H4-H6 in H20 that you are referring to was a classroom scene where a student did a report on the Haddonfield murders. They cut it out because of the whole Jamie/John thing along with any other reference to those movies. Not because of Jamie Lee. That's the first I'm hearing that and it doesn't even make sense.
    Well, don't quote me on this, but if memory doesn't fail me... someone who used to post here said that it was Curtis who opposed the scene. Although she was not a producer, I think she had some creative control over the movie.

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  • DevonteHuntley
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    Jamie Lee haven't even seen those movies when H20 rolled around. I doubt she still has seen them since. She has no room to want to discard them considering they helped build this franchise anyway and helped further and rejuvenate her career? With a big amount of money she'll likely come back or we can recast with a look-alike. John and Laurie need another onscreen moment and this is a FAMILY REUNION after all.

    That reference to H4-H6 in H20 that you are referring to was a classroom scene where a student did a report on the Haddonfield murders. They cut it out because of the whole Jamie/John thing along with any other reference to those movies. Not because of Jamie Lee. That's the first I'm hearing that and it doesn't even make sense.

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  • Westin
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    ^I think it's Jamie Lee Curtis who opposes acknowledging the previous sequels and movies.

    There was an alleged scene on the script of H20 in which Laurie Strode is listening to some kind of radio show about Michael Myers. She is reminded about the death of her daughter, Jamie Lloyd, and turns off the radio and throws up. According to what I've heard from members who used to post here regularly, this alleged scene was eliminated from the official script because Curtis opposed it.

    On a different note, Danielle Harris (Jamie Lloyd) apparently didn't like the fact that they rebooted Halloween and Laurie has a daughter (again) and the daughter is not Jamie. Link here: https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/...-bummed-heres/

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  • DevonteHuntley
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    Okay people, I just want to make this comment because I want to know what other people would have done differently with the movie. I stated by ideas. I want to go in depth a little more and might change some ideas such as with Michael because one thing I found disappointing is how the makers claimed they were going back to the tone and simplicity of the original yet, we got everything but those things. The plot had a lot going on, too fast-paced, too many characters, and too much gore. I have an idea on where the story could go using ideas I already put out if I was to follow-up on the 2018 movie if I was bizarrely tying it back to the other ones. But this is just if this was the 2018 movie. The story would be called: HALLOWEEN: FAMILY REUNION.

    Michael has been captured following the events of H:R and has spent sixteen years back at Smith's Grove which is run by Dr. Dan Challis (from H3). It is October 2018, John Tate and his family lives in Summer Glen, California where he works at Hillcrest as a teacher. He is also married to Molly who is a counselor there. Laurie survived her attack against Michael and has been released out of the sanitarium in 2013 and thus spent a good fifteen years there like Michael did in Smith's Grove. Michael has been under the care of Sara Moyer who works at Smith's Grove. Helping her is her younger adoptive brother intern, Mitchell Moyer who has a mysterious past. Michael is being transferred to a prison out in Santa Mira, California where he is to be executed. In the midst of all of this, production of a third installment to Rob Zombie's Halloween series is also being made based on the 3D script by Todd Farmer. So Rob's movies will be movies in this universe and there's also an original Halloween movie that was made in 1980 which was the one Challis would see on TV in the H3 bar scene.

    The first part of the story mostly involves Challis and the Moyers and the filming of RZH3. Challis reveals what happened following the events of H3 and how it changed him. Sara reveals she is related to Michael, having been given up for adoption, which lead to her helping him in some way. She also did some uncovering of the events of H4-H6, Jamie Lloyd and a baby she had, etc all hidden away by the Thorn cult. Mitchell has episodes where he is reminded of a dark past involving the murder of his original adoptive family. When the transfer bus gets to California, it crashes. Sara and Mitchell makes their way to California to see the scene. She meet Laurie and John and Sara reveals that Laurie is her mother and John is her twin sister. By Halloween time, Michael appears in the area and stalks John's oldest son who is interested in the pagan stuff. Michael makes his way back to his sister and nephew who try to kill him, but John's son uses some rune pebbles to release Michael from his curse which works similar to the H6 P-Cut ending. Michael succumbs to all the injuries he's faced over his lifetime and dies, thanking the son that he is now free of the evil.

    The Strode-Tate-Moyer family get together in celebration. Challis appears and reveals to everyone (minus Mitchell who isn't around) that after doing some more digging into Mitchell's past, that he is Jamie's son and is the product of Michael raping Jamie and is the one who murdered his original adoptive family as a kid. Mitchell's rage returns shortly after when he brutally stabs Molly and leads everyone horrified in an ending similar to Halloween 4.

    So yeah, this is the sequel we should have gotten. It ties up all the movies in the original series, even bringing RZ's movies into the mix and acknowledging the potential third installment to that series that never came to fruition in reality. A movie like this could still be made but maybe as a TV or direct-to-video flick and under another studio. I'm in the process of writing my own original horror series and got two installments done and writing a third part which is near completion (and this will actually be the first part since I went back and decided to write a proper beginning story to the other two). So if that gets picked up and does well to become an actual movie, I'm going to make sure we get the proper Halloween wrap up the first eight movies need with some collaboration help of course. I already started a new H9 story a couple months ago and put that off after a few pages. I will be working back on that again soon enough with some tweaks.
    Last edited by DevonteHuntley; 11-06-2018, 09:44 PM.

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  • Notti
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    I saw this yesterday. Dug it a lot. Thought it was great. I wouldn't rank it above the first four Halloween films but that doesn't mean that I don't love it! It was weird watching a new Halloween movie without rappers and unlikable, bearded trashy people in it. Or seeing Hobo/Wrestler Myers.

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  • DevonteHuntley
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    Originally posted by Westin View Post
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    Thank you, admin, for fixing the problem.
    Same for me too! Thanks a bunch!

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  • Westin
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    Thank you, admin, for fixing the problem.
    Last edited by Westin; 10-29-2018, 08:19 PM.

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