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  • #46
    Originally posted by Chex View Post
    Also, I showed the return of James to a friend of mine just to have her hear Shelly say "James was always cool" and I noticed there's some kid with him that has a green glove or cast on. I don't know what it means, but it's either there just to be weird or it's there for something later.
    Sigh. What you just noticed is, unfortunately, the worst idea Lynch ever had.


    • #47
      3x05 - Part 5: Case Files
      It's getting to be difficult to remember everything other than "your tits are majestic". If I tried that line on a woman, would it work? Do I need to offer her cocaine afterwards to seal the deal?

      Bummer about those car jackers trying to steal Dougie's ride, but maybe he'll be in the clear. Looks like things aren't over at the Silver Mustang Casino as Jim Belushi and associate enter the story....wait, Jim Belushi? Seriously? Anyway, I'd say the Vegas story has so many threads happening in this episode it nearly overshadows everything else. There's also the scene where Dougie calls out Tom Sizemore's character as a liar. Will any of that come into play or was it just to show that Dougie can see people's true intentions and becomes a mirror of it much like how he looked sad when looking at the kid?

      We get a Norma sighting at the cafe along with Shelly, Amanda Seyfried and that guy who played the rich douche in Get Out. From what little I could gather, Seyfried plays Shelly's daughter. Is Bobby the father? It can't be Leo-stein. Oh yeah, where is Leo? Hanging out in the shack still? Nadine pops up while watching Dr. Jacoby's live stream about the corruptions in the world before trying to sell his shit-digging-gold-shovels. Damn if Jacoby hasn't gone off the deep end during the past 25 years. The payoff about the shovels as hilarious considering the series opens with him purchasing said tools, but his ranting is full-blown paranoia. He's no longer the mellow, Hawaii loving doctor.

      When Evil Cooper looks into the mirror, we get a flashback to the end of season 2 and a brief return of Bob. From the visual and the few choice words, I take it Bob is still part of Evil Cooper yet Evil Cooper is a separate entity. Judging from the end of season 2 and the way Bob worked in the series, I had assumed he was in full control of the vessel, but this implies otherwise. He's a passenger in the doppleganger.

      There's a Matthew McConaughy clone hanging out at the Road House threatening to beat and rape a girl. Where's officer Bobby when you need him to protect and serve? It looks like the punk is in league with...I think it's one of the cops at the police station last episode. Oh yeah, and Mike showed up and gave one of the funniest interviews I've ever seen. I used to do hiring for a company and I could easily imagine the kid of application that one kid turned in. I've seen some that makes you wonder if they did it just for a laugh or if they're serious.

      Lastly, we see the hit men contact a woman who also contacts someone in Argentina via a phone that shrinks. I'm not sure if that's a connection to what happened to the real Dougie morphing into a little ball or what. I remember in the movie, Jeffries was said to be in Argentina or somewhere around there. If this relates to him, then Jeffries gave the orders to have fat Dougie killed, possibly to prevent the real Cooper from returning to reality. Jeffries was in contact with Evil Cooper so this may have something to do with it.
      Sigh. What you just noticed is, unfortunately, the worst idea Lynch ever had.
      Hmmm, guess it's not a one-off thing where it's weird for the sake of it then.
      People hyping up latest comic book movie to be the GOAT and I'm like "psshh, you guys must not have seen Bigfoot rip off a man's dick before in 1980's Night of the Demon."


      • #48
        3x06 - Part 6: Don't Die
        Oh damn, we finally get to see Diane...and it's Laura Dern! That's the most perfect yet obvious casting that I never thought of. She doesn't get to say or do much, but just putting a face to her is like a huge revelation.

        Oh, Dougie. I don't know why, but I enjoy watching him do seemingly useless things like scribble. I just realized that Dougie being a life insurance agent has humor in it considering Dougie seems to have been made as a backup plan for Cooper to return to reality.

        More drug drama in Twin Peaks. The McConaughy clone maybe ruthless (dude ran over a kid!), but he's not the biggest bad around. Some jackhole tossing around karate moves and making dimes vanish is in charge of the new Canada - Twin Peaks route. I get the feeling the magic show was a metaphor of sorts about how you can be invaded and all is not what it seems.

        It's awesome to see Harry Dean Stanton again along with the Fat Trout trailer park. You really do need to see Fire Walk with Me before this season as Lynch seems to be using that just as much of a springboard as the show. Stanton's character happens to see the kid's spirit going into the sky after his death. For a moment, I thought we may see it enter the White Lodge. Why Stanton's character can see this is unknown. He has been living near the electric pole with the 6 on it and that, I think, has a connection to the other worlds if not the Black Lodge. Maybe spending so much time near it has affected him.

        1-1-9! I have no clue what the drugged out mom's purpose is. Meanwhile, Dougie's wife knows how to handle business. I'm surprised she's even negotiating considering how much money he brought home from the Silver Mustang.

        Yes, the traffic light is back! I'm serious, this is one of my favorite transitions in all of film / television. There needs to be a way to tell time has moved forward as the story moves from scene to scene and I always though the traffic light was the best and simplest way to show this. The light changes and the viewer knows time has passed. Simple. Oh, and it finally hit me about the water / drapes in the opening. The drapes become superimposed over the flowing water, water representing time, the drapes flowing around, the drapes representing the Black Lodge / Red Room and where time moves strangely. Is it past or is it future?

        I'm dying to know what Hawk found. I did get a chuckle out of how the answer to the mystery was in the bathroom. Also, the sheriff's station really got expanded over the years with so many workers and technology around.
        People hyping up latest comic book movie to be the GOAT and I'm like "psshh, you guys must not have seen Bigfoot rip off a man's dick before in 1980's Night of the Demon."


        • #49
          3x07 - Part7: There's a Body All Right
          Oh snap, things are starting to fall into place and make sense!

          Wow, so the decapitated body belonged to Major Briggs. It never occurred to me that Cooper seeing his heamad floating around in space was a clue. It begs the question of where was Briggs for these past 25 years? He was abducted once in the series, but showed back up later. I'm assuming he was abducted yet again for Cooper to see his head floating around in the other place. Oh yeah, and Ernie Hudson!

          Dougie has some upper arm strength to cripple the little assassin. The way he moved and acted makes me wonder if that was Cooper inside of him doing it or if that was still Dougie. Is that statue Dougie stares at of Gary Cooper? It just dawned on me when watching this. Dougie is drawn to certain things and words that remind him of Cooper's life like "agent", badges, coffee. A statue of Gary Cooper would fit.

          Speaking of the Coops, Evil Cooper managed to blackmail the warden and escape from jail. I like how Diane knew instantly he wasn't the real Cooper. Also, damn, I don't know what happened to her over the past 25 years other than she holds a grudge against the F.B.I. and probably Cooper, but she's vicious! Her remarks even put Albert in his place. I imagine if we saw Diane during the original run, she probably would have been a sweetheart. That's a common theme I've noticed--nobody is like how they were. Everyone is worn down and broken. It's called Twin Peaks-The Return, but it really shows that you can't go back to how things where.

          It's nice to see Doc Hayward even if the actor looks to be reading from a script in front of him. Honestly, I thought he had passed away so that's a surprise. It sounds as if Truman has something medically wrong him. It's a nice way to keep him out of the show for now. I know the actor didn't want to return, but maybe if they do another season he may change his mind....if Truman lives to the end of this. I think Audrey was mentioned and that she's messed up. Probably from the explosion which means Pete's gone. Makes sense as Jack Nance has been dead for over twenty years. I've got the feeling she won't be the seductive, playful Audrey of the past. Like everyone else, she's been chewed up and spit out over the years by time.

          Ok, when the long sweeping scene occurred, I figure it would be the end of the episode. About halfway through, I started laughing at how I was watching something so mundane yet I couldn't skip it for fear of missing out on something. I'm glad I didn't as Walter Olkewicz returned. I couldn't make out the name, but it sounds as if he's another Renalt. Not Jacques though. Is he the Great Went as well?

          Another huge progression were the pages Hawk found and the answer to a long mystery; what happened to the missing pages in Laura's diary? I absolutely love how they tied that back into Fire Walk with Me by having the pages refer to the vision / dream Laura had of Annie telling her Cooper was still in the Black Lodge. It finally resolves that whole issue of why Laura never seemed to take any interest in that.

          I don't know if this is my favorite episode, but the plot moving forward and the threads coming together is great and makes me eager to continue (like I wouldn't anyway).

          On a side note, I watched Rockford Files afterwards and the episode took place at a casino filled with slot machines. All I could think of was Dougie being somewhere in the background and yelling out "hElLooOOooOO!"
          People hyping up latest comic book movie to be the GOAT and I'm like "psshh, you guys must not have seen Bigfoot rip off a man's dick before in 1980's Night of the Demon."


          • #50
            Harry Dean Stanton was so, so great.

            The actor who played Dr. Hayward is actually Mark Frost's father. He was suffering from Alzheimer's, so yeah, I'm sure he was reading from a script.

            It's Jean-Michel Renault this time. My god, what a family...

            I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to your next recap. Seriously, dude, get ready.


            • #51
              Totally. Stanton rules! I knew Warren Frost was Mark Frost's dad, but I didn't know he was suffering from Alzheimer's. That's a bummer to hear. I could tell he was reading from a script, but he still did fine and it was terrific to see him return even in a limited capacity.

              Oh shit, so he is a Renault! Awesome. Olkewicz is such a fun actor. He seems to have a great time whether it's as Jacques or in other stuff like Making the Grade.

              Next recap will be a while. Class is tomorrow night so it depends on how late it is when I get home. If not tomorrow, probably a few days before I get to it. On one hand, it sucks because I'm eager for the next installment. On the other, I don't want to rush through the series and have it come to an end so quick.
              People hyping up latest comic book movie to be the GOAT and I'm like "psshh, you guys must not have seen Bigfoot rip off a man's dick before in 1980's Night of the Demon."


              • #52
                If you have to schedule a break anyway, you should really try to get part 8 in first as I think you might want a couple days before jumping back in to part 9... Part 8 is something that can't really be followed. There was a two week break after it aired on Showtime before they showed the next one.


                • #53
                  Originally posted by sickboy View Post

                  Also, while helping my parents move I came across what may be the most 90's thing ever: a cassette dubbed with the Twin Peaks soundtrack:
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                  I'm not getting the joke.

                  I got that picture sent to me a couple weeks back on this site.

                  Not trying to hijack the thread. Who is that person?


                  • #54
                    3x08 - Part 8: Gotta Light?
                    You think you're going to get a straight up origin story? Pffft! Not here on Twin Peaks: Eraserhead!

                    The imagery and the sound effects feel like pure Lynch without any restraint. I especially enjoyed the slow-motion capture of the atomic blast with the shrieking music.

                    Now it's time to piece together the craziness witnessed. The atomic bomb test occurs in 1945 and a creature, I presume the same one that appeared in the glass box in episode 1, gives birth (barfs up) Black Lodge entities. One of those entities is Bob. After 11 years, Bob hatches from his egg in 1956 and inhabits a teenage girl.

                    About the teenagers, I was trying to think if maybe they were characters on the show and all I could come up with are: Leland and Sarah Palmer. The ages would be close.

                    The Giant reappears in some place we've never seen before. Could this finally be the White Lodge? He barfs up / gives birth to one entity: Laura Palmer. I suppose you could call it a soul or something. It's then shot towards Earth, but we don't see who it inhabits. If my guess about the teenagers is wrong, then perhaps this "Laura Soul" inhabits Sarah. In any case, Laura being used as a means to fight Bob is just something I'm not sure of at the moment. I'm indifferent to the idea.

                    Ray had been working Jeffries to eliminate Evil Cooper. In a stand off, Ray shoots Evil Coop and takes off once the other Black Lodge entities arrive. I can't tell if they're patching Evil Cooper up or if they're reclaiming the Bob manifestation. Evil Cooper returns to life afterwards. If they reclaimed Bob, then Evil Cooper is free of his influence.

                    About the entities, their appearance makes me think of how the lodges and the afterlife are connected. I had been assuming the Black Lodge stands in for Hell in this show. Instead, it may be simply linked to Hell and they're both separate places. Same goes for the White Lodge. What's the purpose of having them separate? Beats me. I know I've seen them before in other episodes...the morgue with Brigg's body and, I think, where Lillard and his wife were. I get that they're protecting Bob so they're lesser entities. Jerry Horn is starting to resemble these guys...if he asks Ben "gotta light", then somethings up.

                    Overall, it was visually interesting and I liked the insight and even answers to questions I never actually had. What I find most fascinating is that, this is episode 8. You can't predict that something like this episode was going to happen. Never a dull moment in Twin Peaks.
                    Last edited by Chex; 04-22-2018, 03:25 AM.
                    People hyping up latest comic book movie to be the GOAT and I'm like "psshh, you guys must not have seen Bigfoot rip off a man's dick before in 1980's Night of the Demon."


                    • #55
                      This is the water, and this is the well
                      Drink full, and descend
                      This is my mantra I'll chant every time I have a beer.
                      People hyping up latest comic book movie to be the GOAT and I'm like "psshh, you guys must not have seen Bigfoot rip off a man's dick before in 1980's Night of the Demon."


                      • #56

                        This is really pretty song, but now it will forever have nightmarish connotations for me.


                        • #57
                          Originally posted by sagittarius View Post

                          This is really pretty song, but now it will forever have nightmarish connotations for me.
                          Oh jeez, i would agree. I couldn't get that song and the radio station scene out of my head today.
                          People hyping up latest comic book movie to be the GOAT and I'm like "psshh, you guys must not have seen Bigfoot rip off a man's dick before in 1980's Night of the Demon."


                          • #58
                            3x09 - Part 9: This is the Chair.
                            I'm not sure who stole the spotlight this episode: Disgusting armpit junkie? Albert and his constant quips and possibly meeting his match in the quirky morgue attendant? Bobby Briggs helping solve the mystery with the good guys. Lillard would be a close fourth if only because he seemed like he was channeling Stu from Scream.

                            I'm not sure what was up with the junkie, but I assume she'll have a role to play. *shudders* That rash-filled arm pit will haunt my dreams tonight.

                            Oh hey, it's Johnny Horne! Uh oh, is he dead?

                            Chad is such a loser that he's eating two TV dinners for lunch? The man helps sell drugs! He should be able to afford something. Maybe the other Renault brother can fix him up some grub.

                            Damn if the story doesn't have my attention. Lillard and the body-less librarian managed to cross over into the other dimension (Black Lodge?) and encountered Major Briggs. Turns out Briggs was a prophet and could foresee everything. Or that's the power of the Lodges / Red Room. He was having visions back in the original series. It's neat in any case. It also explains, in how bizarre way, how he ingested Dougie's ring. Past or future? Pffft, time has no domain in Twin Peaks. Back to Lillard's character, Hastings. Knowing he went to the other dimension was threatened by an entity explains why the lesser beings seem to be popping up around him and the body of Major Briggs.

                            Dougie has the Agent Cooper suit on! Gotta love his patriotism when looking at flog. Looks like tough luck for the little assassin, Ike the Spike. Now I know exactly what Dougie ripped off of him--his palm! Jeez! When Dougie became captivated with the red shoes, I want to say it's another callback reminder for him. Didn't Audrey wear red shoes way back in season 1? Where the hell is Audrey? They mentioned her so I know she survived the bank bombing. Fuck yeah to Hawk for realizing "two Coopers". The way it's going, I suspect all the different groups are going to converge in their journeys.

                            Evil Cooper is still alive, but without Bob. So that settles it: they are separate entities. I guess that was made clear back in season 2 when they both laughing together. I guess at some point, the Bob element took a back seat and Evil Cooper took command which is why he seems short of chuckles. Without Bob around, I wonder if he can come back to life. Also, it went by so fast, but it looked as if Evil Cooper was texting someone. Later, Diane looks at her phone and becomes distraught. Did he text her of all people?

                            Each episode keeps revealing a little more and I keep getting sucked in that much further. Now I want to know where the coordinates lead to. They looked similar to the ones Evil Cooper had on a card. All of this makes me think Evil Cooper was to get the coordinates from Hastings, but Briggs interceded the plan to give Bobby and the others a heads up (uh oh, a pun). Or maybe not.

                            I've had time to dwell on episode 8 and my reaction is now this: I want to see it again. The visuals and the sound have been stuck in my head. Gotta light? guy (I think is the woodsman) is downright creepy. Wasn't there a character in Fire Walk with Me called the woodsman? I remember seeing something like that listed in the credits, but I don't remember a character going by the name.

                            One last thing. In Fire Walk with Me, Laura tells Donna about floating in space and speeding up while the angels do nothing to help. That describes what happens in episode 8 as the Giant creates Laura's soul (I guess) and sends it off to Earth. Man, Lynch was determined to make anyone interested in this season go back and watch the movie again or for the first time.
                            Last edited by Chex; 04-24-2018, 03:00 AM.
                            People hyping up latest comic book movie to be the GOAT and I'm like "psshh, you guys must not have seen Bigfoot rip off a man's dick before in 1980's Night of the Demon."


                            • #59
                              LOL, Chad...

                              The woodsmen did originate in FWWM. You can spot one of them in the scene Jeffries described - "I've been to one of their meetings..." Though obviously they look quite a bit different this time around with the covered-in-soot appearance. I assume that was just an artistic decision.

                              I will note that you get some things right and some things wrong in your observations. I'm trying to be careful about either confirming or denying things because you'll get there later on.

                              And I see you're ready to know that this exists:
                              Last edited by sagittarius; 04-24-2018, 03:49 AM.


                              • #60
                                Oh damn, he did appear in the movie? I'll have to go back and check it out sometime.

                                I'm more surprised that I've pieced anything together! I know you're having to hold back to keep from ruining things. I appreciate it and know it can't be easy.

                                dkfhdlfhdkhfd that website is awesome. I love how retro it is.
                                People hyping up latest comic book movie to be the GOAT and I'm like "psshh, you guys must not have seen Bigfoot rip off a man's dick before in 1980's Night of the Demon."